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The Flame of Keld

Serie: Dominaria (DOM)

Rarity: Uncommon Dominaria Uncommon

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Marduk (6) Offline Profiel Stuur persoonlijk bericht
12-1-2019 01:25:00

Ja je kan er nog een trigger uithalen als je een counter weghaalt. Zie ruling onder de kaart.

If counters are removed from a Saga, the appropriate chapter abilities will trigger again when the Saga receives lore counters. Removing lore counters won't cause a previous chapter ability to trigger.

M.a.w. Ja, als je dat met de 2e saga ability doet via een Ferropede, kan je inderdaad in theorie elke beurt 3 kaarten pakken. Op het moment dat je de counter er af haalt, hoef je echter niet je hand te discarden.

Edit - beter lezen. Je moet saccen nadat 3 getriggerd is, dus dan nog eentje weghalen werkt niet meer, zie laatste ruling. Zodra de laatste ability de stack verlaat moet je saccen als SBA.

12-1-2019 01:12:00

Als je somehow op instant speed hier een counter vanaf zou halen, met de derde ability op de stack... blijft deze liggen en triggerd #3 de volgende beurt weer, of prevent dit niet dat de saga gesacced moet worden?

Oracle

Enchantment - Saga 

(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I - Discard your hand.
II - Draw two cards.
III - If a red source you control would deal damage to a permanent or player this turn, it deals that much damage plus 2 to that permanent or player instead.

Tournooi-info

Legal in: Vintage, Legacy, Modern, Commander

Officiele rulings

4/27/2018
If multiple replacement effects would modify how damage would be dealt, the player being dealt damage (or the controller of the permanent being dealt damage) chooses the order in which to apply those effects.

4/27/2018
If damage dealt by a source you control is being divided or assigned among multiple permanents an opponent controls or among an opponent and one or more permanents they control simultaneously, divide the original amount before adding 2. For example, if you attack with a 5/5 red creature with trample and your opponent blocks with a 2/2 creature, you can assign 2 damage to the blocker and 3 damage to the defending player. These amounts are then modified to 4 and 5, respectively.

4/27/2018
As a Saga enters the battlefield, its controller puts a lore counter on it. As your precombat main phase begins (immediately after your draw step), you put another lore counter on each Saga you control. Putting a lore counter on a Saga in either of these ways doesn’t use the stack.

4/27/2018
Each symbol on the left of a Saga’s text box represents a chapter ability. A chapter ability is a triggered ability that triggers when a lore counter that is put on the Saga causes the number of lore counters on the Saga to become equal to or greater than the ability’s chapter number. Chapter abilities are put onto the stack and may be responded to.

4/27/2018
A chapter ability doesn’t trigger if a lore counter is put on a Saga that already had a number of lore counters greater than or equal to that chapter’s number. For example, the third lore counter put on a Saga causes the III chapter ability to trigger, but I and II won’t trigger again.

4/27/2018
Once a chapter ability has triggered, the ability on the stack won’t be affected if the Saga gains or loses counters, or if it leaves the battlefield.

4/27/2018
If multiple chapter abilities trigger at the same time, their controller puts them on the stack in any order. If any of them require targets, those targets are chosen as you put the abilities on the stack, before any of those abilities resolve.

4/27/2018
If counters are removed from a Saga, the appropriate chapter abilities will trigger again when the Saga receives lore counters. Removing lore counters won’t cause a previous chapter ability to trigger.

4/27/2018
Once the number of lore counters on a Saga is greater than or equal to the greatest number among its chapter abilities-in the Dominaria set, this is always three-the Saga’s controller sacrifices it as soon as its chapter ability has left the stack, most likely by resolving or being countered. This state-based action doesn’t use the stack.

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